Andrew W.K. and Fred Thomas are buddies who go way, way back. 20 years ago they were teenagers in the Ann Arbor, Michigan music scene, and now they're still friends, as well as accomplished musicians. The Talkhouse decided to capture that friendship and their musical experiences in a podcast. Listen to their conversation at The Talkhouse or via Soundcloud below.

"These are two very thoughtful, well spoken and very experienced musicians, and conversation is filled with really great insights about what it’s like to be a musician — any kind of musician. This is the kind of thing you won’t get in an ordinary interview, so listen closely for an explanation of why your audience is your enemy, a great discussion about the value of criticism, a realistic definition of artistic success, musings on the intersection of life and art, and an attempt to pin down the mysterious miracle of artistic inspiration." - The Talkhouse